BitCoin Transfer

Private email with Dustin Trammell · 5 messages · from 18 January 2009 · with Dustin D. Trammell, Satoshi Nakamoto

Dustin D. Trammell to satoshi@vistomail.com · 18 January 2009, 15:23 UTC · original

Hey Satoshi, After that first transfer of 25.00, you didn't send me another 100.00 did you? I sent myself 100.00 from my BitCoin application at work to my one at home using the BitCoin address rather than by IP. My application at home has a 100.00 transfer received, however it's transaction details say "Received with: Satoshi 12higDjoCCNXSA95xZMWUdPvXNmkAduhWv". That is not my BitCoin address from work, so I assume this means that I received the payment encoded with a block that was computed by your client? If so, how did it know your name in addition to the BitCoin address that generated it? I don't recall there being a place in my application to even put my name. -- Dustin D. Trammell dtrammell@dustintrammell.com http://www.dustintrammell.com

Satoshi Nakamoto to dtrammell@dustintrammell.com · 18 January 2009, 16:54 UTC · original

It should be your Bitcoin address at home that you received it with. There's no way for it to know who it's from, so the best it can do is tell which of your addresses it was received on. You can create multiple addresses and give a different address to each person and label them to help figure out who's sending to you. It doesn't know any names other than what you tell it. The name printed there is what's associated in your address book for that address, either under the Address Book button or the "Change..." button to the right of your Bitcoin address.

Hey Satoshi, After that first transfer of 25.00, you didn't send me another 100.00 did you? I sent myself 100.00 from my BitCoin application at work to my one at home using the BitCoin address rather than by IP. My application at home has a 100.00 transfer received, however it's transaction details say "Received with: Satoshi 12higDjoCCNXSA95xZMWUdPvXNmkAduhWv". That is not my BitCoin address from work, so I assume this means that I received the payment encoded with a block that was computed by your client? If so, how did it know your name in addition to the BitCoin address that generated it? I don't recall there being a place in my application to even put my name. -- Dustin D. Trammell dtrammell@dustintrammell.com http://www.dustintrammell.com

Dustin D. Trammell to satoshi@vistomail.com · 19 January 2009, 00:09 UTC · original

On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 00:54 +0800, Satoshi Nakamoto wrote:
It should be your Bitcoin address at home that you received it with. There's no way for it to know who it's from, so the best it can do is tell which of your addresses it was received on. You can create multiple addresses and give a different address to each person and label them to help figure out who's sending to you.

Ah! I didn't even notice it was my address at home, you're right (: I do have multiple addresses created at home so I didn't make the connection.

It doesn't know any names other than what you tell it. The name printed there is what's associated in your address book for that address, either under the Address Book button or the "Change..." button to the right of your Bitcoin address.

Ahh you're right, 'Satoshi' is associated with the address that received the payment under the Change button's addresses. I don't recall setting that value though, is that the default or something? (this is the first, default, address that the application generated itself when I first ran it) -- Dustin D. Trammell dtrammell@dustintrammell.com http://www.dustintrammell.com

Satoshi Nakamoto to dtrammell@dustintrammell.com · 19 January 2009, 16:44 UTC · original

On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 00:54 +0800, Satoshi Nakamoto wrote: > It should be your Bitcoin address at home that you received it > with. There's no way for it to know who it's from, so the best > it can do is tell which of your addresses it was received on. > You can create multiple addresses and give a different address > to each person and label them to help figure out who's sending > to you. Ah! I didn't even notice it was my address at home, you're right (: I do have multiple addresses created at home so I didn't make the connection. > It doesn't know any names other than what you tell it. The name > printed there is what's associated in your address book for that > address, either under the Address Book button or the "Change..." > button to the right of your Bitcoin address. Ahh you're right, 'Satoshi' is associated with the address that received the payment under the Change button's addresses. I don't recall setting that value though, is that the default or something? (this is the first, default, address that the application generated itself when I first ran it)

The first default one is labelled "Your Address" when it's created. All the places where address book labels are set are where the user manually sets it. The only time it automatically adds a label is a blank one when you send to a new address. I guess you could have entered the label on an address you thought was mine but the software was confusing and you put it in the wrong place. Address book labels for receiving addresses is confusing but I'm not sure what else to do. Anyone using it for more than just simple purposes would need to create different receiving addresses for each payer so they could tell who's paying them. That concept doesn't have much analogy in the real world. Satoshi

Dustin D. Trammell to satoshi@vistomail.com · 20 January 2009, 01:58 UTC · original

On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 00:44 +0800, Satoshi Nakamoto wrote:
The first default one is labelled "Your Address" when it's created. All the places where address book labels are set are where the user manually sets it. The only time it automatically adds a label is a blank one when you send to a new address. I guess you could have entered the label on an address you thought was mine but the software was confusing and you put it in the wrong place.

That would make sense, I bet that's what happened.

Address book labels for receiving addresses is confusing but I'm not sure what else to do. Anyone using it for more than just simple purposes would need to create different receiving addresses for each payer so they could tell who's paying them. That concept doesn't have much analogy in the real world.

I think had it said "Received with address: X" rather than just "Received with: X" I think I would have understood, although I'm sure that address being mislabeled 'Satoshi' was the primary reason for my initial confusion. You're right though, there's really nothing comparable in the current financial system that people are used to other than maybe being able to use multiple recipient email addresses for PayPal. Perhaps it could say "Received payment to: X"? -- Dustin D. Trammell dtrammell@dustintrammell.com http://www.dustintrammell.com