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Private email with Martti Malmi (sirius-m) · 8 messages · from 30 November 2009 · with Satoshi Nakamoto, mmalmi@cc.hut.fi

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mmalmi@cc.hut.fi to Satoshi Nakamoto <satoshin@gmx.com> · · original
The current site layout looks nice and simple. The logo just should be changed. If we want to go live quickly, we can just replace it with the site title and make a better logo later. If we need help with site administration or contacts to professional web graphic artists, we can ask Dave. He does Drupal stuff for work.
mmalmi@cc.hut.fi to Satoshi Nakamoto <satoshin@gmx.com> · · original
It would be also great if you can get the Sourceforge logo from the SF project admin and add it to the site footer.
The current site layout looks nice and simple. The logo just should be changed. If we want to go live quickly, we can just replace it with the site title and make a better logo later. If we need help with site administration or contacts to professional web graphic artists, we can ask Dave. He does Drupal stuff for work.
mmalmi@cc.hut.fi to Satoshi Nakamoto <satoshin@gmx.com> · · original
I autogenerated the new logo at http://cooltext.com/, it's a good quick solution. You can try a wide variety of different logo styles there if you have the patience for the slow user interface.
It would be also great if you can get the Sourceforge logo from the SF project admin and add it to the site footer. > The current site layout looks nice and simple. The logo just should be > changed. If we want to go live quickly, we can just replace it with the > site title and make a better logo later. > > If we need help with site administration or contacts to professional > web graphic artists, we can ask Dave. He does Drupal stuff for work.
Satoshi Nakamoto to mmalmi@cc.hut.fi · · original
Thanks, I haven't settled on a theme yet. My first experiment was to try something besides yet another blue site. Another line of thought is that it should be like a bank website, stately, professional and official looking to support confidence in financial matters. The logo's a little too Disco/web-1990's. I still like your bitweaver one better, I recreated it with text as a placeholder for now. When the theme is more settled, I'll think about a matching logo. Good idea about the Sourceforge tag, we can use all the graphics we can get. I have more to do before we go live, and we need to give the search engines more time.
mmalmi@cc.hut.fi wrote:
I autogenerated the new logo at http://cooltext.com/, it's a good quick solution. You can try a wide variety of different logo styles there if you have the patience for the slow user interface. > It would be also great if you can get the Sourceforge logo from the SF > project admin and add it to the site footer. > >> The current site layout looks nice and simple. The logo just should be >> changed. If we want to go live quickly, we can just replace it with the >> site title and make a better logo later. >> >> If we need help with site administration or contacts to professional >> web graphic artists, we can ask Dave. He does Drupal stuff for work.
mmalmi@cc.hut.fi to Satoshi Nakamoto <satoshin@gmx.com> · · original
The text logo looks quite good actually, except on Windows when the font antialiasing doesn't work. I turned it into a png. I just made a 10,000bc transaction from one account to another, but it ended up sending 10,000.20bc. Any idea why that could be?
Thanks, I haven't settled on a theme yet. My first experiment was to try something besides yet another blue site. Another line of thought is that it should be like a bank website, stately, professional and official looking to support confidence in financial matters. The logo's a little too Disco/web-1990's. I still like your bitweaver one better, I recreated it with text as a placeholder for now. When the theme is more settled, I'll think about a matching logo. Good idea about the Sourceforge tag, we can use all the graphics we can get. I have more to do before we go live, and we need to give the search engines more time. mmalmi@cc.hut.fi wrote: > I autogenerated the new logo at http://cooltext.com/, it's a good > quick solution. You can try a wide variety of different logo styles > there if you have the patience for the slow user interface. > >> It would be also great if you can get the Sourceforge logo from the SF >> project admin and add it to the site footer. >> >>> The current site layout looks nice and simple. The logo just should be >>> changed. If we want to go live quickly, we can just replace it with the >>> site title and make a better logo later. >>> >>> If we need help with site administration or contacts to professional >>> web graphic artists, we can ask Dave. He does Drupal stuff for work. > > >
Satoshi Nakamoto to mmalmi@cc.hut.fi · · original
What Windows version/browser doesn't font anti-aliasing work on? IE 6 on XP anti-aliases, and versions below that have less than 1% market share. There's a transaction fee of 0.01 per KB after the first 1KB for oversized transactions. The first 1KB is free, small transactions are typically 250 bytes. Doubleclick on the transaction. Think of it like postage by weight. The solution is an extra dialog when sending, something like "This is an oversized transaction and requires a transaction fee of 0.20bc. Is this OK?" (is that text good enough or any improvements?) I have the code already, I'll put it in. Then we wouldn't have to explain the 10,000.20bc transaction, but may still have to explain who the transaction fee goes to.
mmalmi@cc.hut.fi wrote:
The text logo looks quite good actually, except on Windows when the font antialiasing doesn't work. I turned it into a png. I just made a 10,000bc transaction from one account to another, but it ended up sending 10,000.20bc. Any idea why that could be? > Thanks, I haven't settled on a theme yet. My first experiment was to > try something besides yet another blue site. Another line of thought > is that it should be like a bank website, stately, professional and > official looking to support confidence in financial matters. > > The logo's a little too Disco/web-1990's. I still like your bitweaver > one better, I recreated it with text as a placeholder for now. When > the theme is more settled, I'll think about a matching logo. > > Good idea about the Sourceforge tag, we can use all the graphics we > can get. > > I have more to do before we go live, and we need to give the search > engines more time. > > mmalmi@cc.hut.fi wrote: >> I autogenerated the new logo at http://cooltext.com/, it's a good >> quick solution. You can try a wide variety of different logo styles >> there if you have the patience for the slow user interface. >> >>> It would be also great if you can get the Sourceforge logo from the SF >>> project admin and add it to the site footer. >>> >>>> The current site layout looks nice and simple. The logo just should be >>>> changed. If we want to go live quickly, we can just replace it with >>>> the >>>> site title and make a better logo later. >>>> >>>> If we need help with site administration or contacts to professional >>>> web graphic artists, we can ask Dave. He does Drupal stuff for work. >> >> >>
mmalmi@cc.hut.fi to Satoshi Nakamoto <satoshin@gmx.com> · · original
What Windows version/browser doesn't font anti-aliasing work on? IE 6 on XP anti-aliases, and versions below that have less than 1% market share.
Firefox on XP doesn't, and IE also doesn't produce as good quality as I have on Linux. Screenshots from browsershots.org attached.
There's a transaction fee of 0.01 per KB after the first 1KB for oversized transactions. The first 1KB is free, small transactions are typically 250 bytes. Doubleclick on the transaction. Think of it like postage by weight.
Is there no transaction fee then, if you send the same amount in multiple small packages?
The solution is an extra dialog when sending, something like "This is an oversized transaction and requires a transaction fee of 0.20bc. Is this OK?" (is that text good enough or any improvements?) I have the code already, I'll put it in.
Sounds fine.
Then we wouldn't have to explain the 10,000.20bc transaction, but may still have to explain who the transaction fee goes to.
Where should it go btw? Here it went to the receiver along with all the other coins. Transaction screenshot attached.
mmalmi@cc.hut.fi wrote: > The text logo looks quite good actually, except on Windows when the > font antialiasing doesn't work. I turned it into a png. > > I just made a 10,000bc transaction from one account to another, but > it ended up sending 10,000.20bc. Any idea why that could be? > >> Thanks, I haven't settled on a theme yet. My first experiment was to >> try something besides yet another blue site. Another line of thought >> is that it should be like a bank website, stately, professional and >> official looking to support confidence in financial matters. >> >> The logo's a little too Disco/web-1990's. I still like your bitweaver >> one better, I recreated it with text as a placeholder for now. When >> the theme is more settled, I'll think about a matching logo. >> >> Good idea about the Sourceforge tag, we can use all the graphics >> we can get. >> >> I have more to do before we go live, and we need to give the search >> engines more time. >> >> mmalmi@cc.hut.fi wrote: >>> I autogenerated the new logo at http://cooltext.com/, it's a good >>> quick solution. You can try a wide variety of different logo >>> styles there if you have the patience for the slow user interface. >>> >>>> It would be also great if you can get the Sourceforge logo from the SF >>>> project admin and add it to the site footer. >>>> >>>>> The current site layout looks nice and simple. The logo just should be >>>>> changed. If we want to go live quickly, we can just replace it with the >>>>> site title and make a better logo later. >>>>> >>>>> If we need help with site administration or contacts to professional >>>>> web graphic artists, we can ask Dave. He does Drupal stuff for work. >>> >>> >>> > > >
Satoshi Nakamoto to mmalmi@cc.hut.fi · · original
mmalmi@cc.hut.fi wrote:
> What Windows version/browser doesn't font anti-aliasing work on? IE 6 > on XP anti-aliases, and versions below that have less than 1% market > share. Firefox on XP doesn't, and IE also doesn't produce as good quality as I have on Linux. Screenshots from browsershots.org attached.
That's strange, I've seen Firefox 3.5 on XP anti-alias large fonts. Well anyway, your way is safer. I changed it back to text for now though so I can keep tweaking the colours. Drupal puts the <span> tags and junk in the browser title but that's fine for testing. I added some instruction text on the homepage below the screenshots.
Is there no transaction fee then, if you send the same amount in multiple small packages?
True. I suppose the dialog could make it worse by giving people a chance to experiment with breaking it up. I'm making some changes. The largest free transaction will be 60KB, or about 27,000bc if made of 50bc inputs. I hope that's high enough that the transaction fee should rarely ever come up. v0.2 nodes will take free transactions until the block size is over 200K, with priority given to smaller transactions. It's best if you don't talk about this transaction fee stuff in public. It's there for flood control. We don't want to give anyone any ideas.
Where should it go btw? Here it went to the receiver along with all the other coins. Transaction screenshot attached.
You found an infrequent bug in CreateTransaction. It wrote the transaction for 10000.20 with a fee of 0.22. If you look at the transaction on the sender's side, it'll be a debit 10000.42 with transaction fee 0.22. The bug was that it had to make a rare third pass on calculating the fee, and incorrectly added the first pass' fee to the amount being sent. Will fix.